This chat is from the same November Halloween party that I talked with Kyle. You can hear him and the mysterious Maureen in the background. I know a lot of designers and the conversations with them about what they do are always different. I often wonder if Design is the pursuit of something greater that will never truly come to pass. As we discusses in the conversation no design can be completely universal and fit every single person’s needs but maybe it’s the progress not the perfection that makes it worth it.